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Interviewing Essentials and Mindset of Fraud with Liseli Pennings

2018 ACFE-DC Chapter Training Information Email/Session Description

Date: Thursday, March 22, 2018

Time: 8:00 AM – 4:30 PM (Training starts promptly at 8:30), breakfast and lunch will be served

Location: KPMG, 1801 K St NW, Washington, DC 20036 (training rooms 1006, 1007, 1008)


Speaker: Liseli Pennings, CFE

Subject: Interviewing Essentials and Mindset of a Fraudster


Once a fraud scandal goes public, the “what, when, where and how” become a matter of public record. But what about the “why”? What drives these individuals to lie, cheat and swindle? Understanding the path a fraudster takes from employee to criminal can provide valuable insight that can help strengthen your anti-fraud initiatives and make your fraud examinations more successful.  Through discussions of human behavior, video interviews with convicted fraudsters and interactive problem-solving, you will gain a deeper understanding of motivations and personality traits common to many fraudsters.

Instructor Liseli Pennings was a Special Agent with the U.S. Treasury Inspector General's Office of Tax Administration (TIGTA) and previously a career Special Agent and Diplomat with the U.S. Department of State Diplomatic Security Service (DSS) with over 16 years of service as a Special Agent.  A subject matter expert in fraud investigations, physical security, and protective security, Ms. Pennings has been a law enforcement attache in both Europe and Latin America, a resident agent-in-charge in Texas, managed large teams' multi-million dollar budgets and contracts.  


You Will Learn How To:  

  • Recognize common characteristics of fraud perpetrators 
  • See what societal and organizational factors can lead to fraud
  • Recognize red flags of employee behavior
  • Use behavioral knowledge to enhance your fraud examination
  • Design anti-fraud programs to include behavioral characteristics  

Who Should Attend:  

  • Certified Fraud Examiners and other anti-fraud professionals 
  • Attorneys, legal professionals and law enforcement personnel
  • Detectives and private investigators 
  • Internal and external auditors, CPAs, CAs and forensic accountants 
  • Governance, risk management and compliance officers 
  • Loss prevention and security professionals

Field of Study: Specialized Knowledge [Fraud-Related]

CPE Credits: 8 Specialized Knowledge

Delivery Method: Group Live

Pre-Requisites: None

Advanced Preparation: No advanced preparation is needed for this course

Cancellation Policy
: If this course must be cancelled, all registrants will receive an email indicating the course was cancelled and providing a rescheduled training date.

Complaint Resolution Policy:
 All participants are encouraged to submit an evaluation of the course to receive CPE credit. Any course issues should be address in the evaluation and/or directed to the DC-ACFE prior to the end of the course.

Contact Information: Contact the chapter at

Training materials:






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